Re: Verein/association (was : Re: [f-cpu] test, comments and question)

[Yann Guidon <whygee@f-cpu.org>]

hi !

Michael Riepe wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 07:29:57PM -0700, Colin Marquardt wrote:
> > * Michael Riepe <michael@stud.uni-hannover.de> writes:
> > > It can't, as far as I know.  At least not in Germany, because the
> > > so-called `Urheberrecht' is not transferable.  Whatever I do, I can not
> > > give it away.
> > Except if you do contract work for a company. Then they will own
> > the copyright IIRC. But that is really nitpicking in that case. But
> > maybe the Verein could hire you? :-)
> You're not officially speaking for `the Verein', are you? ;)
hehe ;-)

> That might be an option.  But the question is: do I really want that?
> And what if I don't?  The GPL already permits the Verein/association
> to use, modify and redistribute my code; they don't need the copyright.
what we want to solve is : how can we enforce our rights ?
Of course, everyone's free will must be respected.

> Another question is: will they use my code anyway?  The FSF says no.
> You can't even send a 20-liner to them without signing a paper first,
> and changing all copyright notices in your code to read `Copyright (C)
> 20xx Free Software Foundation'.  I don't like that attitude at all,
> and even if there weren't the `legal incompatibility' with german law,
> I wouldn't do that voluntarily.  Why should I?
that's your choice and i guess that everybody can respect it :-)
OTOH copyright law is pretty bizarre. Remember the DeCSS trial ?
Now the problem is : how do we protect 1) ourselves 2) the F-CPU project.
What the FSF/GNU project do is to scatter the copyrights :
"divide to reign". it gives more inertia.

Idea : Every file contains the usual copyright notice, date and name,
plus the mention : "for use only in the F-CPU project". is it a good idea ?
Copyright law allows it, is it compatible with the GPL ?

> I really like Free Software and the GPL.  I don't even mind not getting
> paid for most software I write (well, sometimes I do, near the end
> of the month ;).  But I want people to know who wrote the software
> they use, just like they know who wrote the book they currently read
> (Terry Pratchett, in case you wonder ;).  And yes, I also want the
> F-CPU users-to-be to know that it wasn't made by some anonymous crowd,
> but by certain well-known individuals who spent a lot of time and effort
> on that project (and also had a lot of fun, but that's another story).
I understand. it makes the project look more human, too.

> Note that I don't talk about fame or admiration here.  I don't want to
> become another Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman, Dennis Ritchie or Bill
> (*yuck*) Gates -- too much publicity is bad for your health; ask a movie
> star if you happen to meet one (you almost never meet them -- guess why?).
> I want people to respect me and my work just like I respect them.
> Nothing more, nothing less.
yo :-) If it was for the money, you wouldn't be here anyway ;-)

> </rant useless="yes, absolutely, but I had to say this">
of course. can this discussion go to the hardlicense-discuss@seul.org
mailing list ? there are more people there who can answer our questions.


Now i've finished the Icache SRAM array, i'm moving
to the infrastructure. The LRU unit will be made at the last time.
stay tuned.


have fun,
>  Michael "Tired" Riepe <Michael.Riepe@stud.uni-hannover.de>
>  "All I wanna do is have a little fun before I die"
WHYGEE
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