Re: Hardware licensing (fwd)

[Yann Guidon <whygee@f-cpu.org>]

hi !

graham@belegost.mit.edu wrote:
> > hi there,
> > (please publish where needed)
> >
> > graham@belegost.mit.edu wrote:
> > (or was it Ian ?)
> > > 2)  The established way that companies go about sharing hardware designs is
> > > the Non-Disclosure-Agreement. I propose that we should have an OpenNDA.
> > <snip>
> >
> > for me, that's pure nonsense. i think that it is absurd to say
> > that something is both open and closed. the "bad habit" of putting
> > the "open" prefix on any word has struck again.
> >
> This is part of a very old discussion. It was not me but Ian who
> proposed the 'Open NDA'. His idea was that if copyright law didn't work
> to protect hardware designs, it might be better to switch to contract law.
> My only contribution to this was to suggest that it might be better
> named the 'Disclosure Agreement'. But in the end it seems nobody
> except Ian thought this idea would work. This discussion ended a year
> ago, IIRC.

i wasn't aware of this. I've seen the term OpenNDA somewhere, but it has
already struck me as completely idiotic (as seen without explanation).
OTOH, the term of 'Disclosure Agreement' and the use of a different kind
of laws, that makes a bit of sense. Only lawyers could answer the problem,
now.

> > here, it's not only about "openness", but freedom. you have written
> > about "the GPL's infectious character" and you propose the contrary.
> Not guilty!
so it's Ian's fault ;-)

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > PS : is it possible to switch the discussion on the
> > hardlicense-discuss@seul.org mailing list ? i don't catch
> > anything from the discussion.
> >
> Can you let me know (maybe off-list) what the problem is?
well, the forwards are nice but that doesn't help to have a "normal
conversation" on the mailing list.

> There has been no discussion on the list for some time;
i remarked it, i dropped the licence discussions for more important
and practical worries.
> in the last few
> days Patrick Maupin sent some mail to me and rms, which I have
> posted on to the list, and Patrick is now continuing his discussion
> there.
Did Patrick subscribe here ?

> But recently my normal (non-list) mail to you has been bouncing.
> maybe there's a problem with your uni email service?

i'm leaving uni soon. i'll very probably be hired by an EDA vendor.
whygee@f-cpu.org works.

> Graham

WHYGEE
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