Re: fsf/chips

[Yann Guidon <whygee@f-cpu.org>]

hello,

late answer </sorry>

Jamil Khatib wrote:
> > i've read the goals from basiclic.shtml :
> >
> > "Any update to the design should be documented and returned to the design. "
> >  it's not very "GPL", it's not something that can be
> > legally enforced, like the problem of the URL on the chips.
> 
> Yes I agree with you but we need all modifications.
mmm maybe it should be rephrased then.

> > "Any work based on the design can be either made
> > free under OpenIP licnese or protected by any other
> > licnese."
> >  this is something that can be easily
> > "reinterpreted" ... bad bad bad. it contradicts
> > the line that says : "Any derivative work based on
> > the IP should be free under OpenIP Licnese."
> 
> There is a difference between work based and derivative
> work. Work based on such as a communication controller
> that uses F-CPU core. while Derivative work is a new
> F-CPU with extra instruction

<personal>
i don't think much about such a difference.
when you "use" the design, you read it and you implement whatever is on, that's all.
when you "reuse", "modify" or "base a work" on this design, you read this design
to make something else with it. that's simple.
maybe it's just a problem of vocabulary ?

> > licgoals.shtml says :
> > "The license should restrict the commercial income
> > of the hardware products"
> > i don't think that it is useful. it' restricts the
> > "free" market.
> 
> There are different ideas about this point, some want
> this restriction but teh others do not. Anyhow this
> restriction should be on the R&D cost notteh
> implementation cost, the same as for distributing
> GPLed SW on cdroms.

it should probably be written on the site, to explicit the
intent. as for the f-cpu, since it is derived in parts
from the GPL, such a notice is not necessary.

> > > I'll start by my self in the week end to summarize all
> > > what I think we need of a license
> >
> > i retrospect, after what we discussed with Graham, i think that a
> > slightly more "picky" GPL can do the trick. not only for HW IP projects
> > but also for other "classical" projects.
> I am going to take a look at your suggested license
> and give my comments.

it's gonna be interesting :-)

> > > Regards
> > > Jamil Khatib
have fun,
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